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As now & then posts come up with FAKE livesets, it's maybe usefull to have a list here @ LS, where people can post faked sets they know about. It could save you annoying times during trading etc. And everybody knows, this matter SUCKS!!

Was already walking around with this idea in my head and when i saw it in a (sticky!) topic on another board last week, with quite a lot of usefull facts for me as collecting setfreak, it was clear to me i wanted to open a likewise thread here @ LS also.

So let me start off with a couple of sets - there's more but have 2 search for those first, i will try 2 update my list as often as possible & every time i find out about some new ones (not every single time offcourse..)

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Adam Beyer @ Awakenings NDSM 31-01-2003 (No Awake that date + a 31-12 set = unknown)
Adam Beyer @ ID&T Radio A'dam 02-01-2004 (= Essential Mix 15-12-2002
Adam Beyer @ Loca Brazil xx-01-04 (=Circuito Brazil 06-07-03 starts @ 34th min)
Adam Beyer @ Roxy London 28/29-11-2003 (= Hyperspace Black set from 15-02-03)
Anthony Rother @ Quest (= Rother @ Liberty One 2001)
Ben Sims @ Ambasada Gavioli Eslovenia 2001 (=in fact Sims @ Fuse Club Brussels 27-11-1999 Pt2)
Ben Sims @ Live Sets Radio 05-01-2004 (= simply ghehe...)
Ben Sims @ Simphonija (Holland)-DAT-07-18-2003 (=Ian F @ Simfonija Slovenia 25-10-2003)
Ben Sims & Richie Hawtin @ Electro Tramp ( =some shitty house fake)
Billy Nasty @ MazZo Amsterdam '95/'96 or so.. (= Billy's mix for Mazzo Mix-Up CD 4)
Carl Cox live @ Shockers 2002 (= Carl Cox live @ Shockers 2001)
Carl Cox & Chris Liebing @ Enigma Paris NYE 2002 (=one of the old Liebing @ U60's)
Chris Liebing @ Atomic Jam, Birmingham 08-03-2004 (soundz more like a late 2003 Gayle San..)
Chris Liebing & DJ Rush @ Wastelands 08-11-2001
Claude Young Jay Denham Dave Clarke Thomas Krome @ Mortimer (mix with trax by these djs only)
Cristian Varela & Marco Bailey @ Groove Parade 2003 (= Varela @ Groove Parade 2002
Cristian Vogel @ Aufschwung Ost 1997 P1+2 (=Blake Baxter & Vogel, Aufschwung Ost Tour 95)
Cristian Vogel @ Aufschwung Ost 30-10-1998 (= actually from '95)
Cristian Vogel & Neil Landstrumm @ Range (= set by unknown dj)
Cyberfactory sets: Not what you call fakes really,but have 2 know/remember it's mostly broadcasts of older sets/so not LIVE @ studio or something..
Dave Clarke @ Intensivestation 2001 (=Dave @ ILT 2001)
Dave Clarke @ ID-T Radio 04-04-2004(-xds) (= Oscar Mulero @ Las Palmas 04-10-2003 (1st 5mins) & Dave Clarke @ Las Palmas 04-10-2003 (the rest)..)
Dave Tarrida @ Mothership P1 (=Dave Tarrida @ Tresor Labelparty)
DJ Pierre (USA) @ 17yrs Cafe D'Anvers Antwerp 21-10-2006 (promomix by Pierre from early 2006)
Frankie Bones-Computer Controll/Live in California (=his very nice CD"Computer Controlled")
Frankie Bones - Live @ 101 Factory NYC '97 (=his MixCD "Factory 101")
Frankie Bones - Live @ Factory 3o3 NYC (=his MixCD "Factory 303")
Fumiya Tanaka @ Clublab radioshow Bratislava 11-2004 (=his '96 CD @ Rockets Club)
Gayle San @ Atomic Jam, Birmingham 08-03-2004 (gayle never played there that night..)
Glenn Wilson @ Bang Party Pi Club Oslo 25-02-2006 (=Wilson @ Bang 2 Germany from 2002 (or 2001?)
Ironbase @ 1040 Leipzig (=Hanson & Schrempf 29-09-2001)
James Ruskin @ La Rocca Ballroom, Lier Belgium 01-05-1999
Jamie Lidell @ Neue Heimat 1999 (=more likely from 09-1998)
Jeff Mills & Robert Hood @ UR Labelnight NYC 1992 (=Mark Verbos "Banging Promo" DJmix 01-2004)
Laurent Garnier @ Escape UK 15-04-2004 (=recording of a radioshow on Couleur3, 10yrs F-comm special)
Liebing vs Rush @ Techno Overnight Hamburg P1-9 (=Liebing vs Rush-Clash of the Titans @ Palazzo)
Marco Bailey @ Time Warp 2004-xds (=full set by Speedy J + 16mins of Bailey only...)
Marco Carola @ Arabesk Club, Napoli 05-11-2004 (= his promonix for Essence)
Marco Carola @ Pariside 2004 (= Marco Carola @ The Parish Austin 11-07-2003)
Marco Carola @ System Soundbar Toronto 28-03-2003 (some weak fake..)
Marco Carola @ Heepen Germany 01-12-2003 (= Carola @ Necto Club Detroit 06-03-2003)[/b]
Marco Reveller @ Airport Würzburg 12-01-2002 (=Marco Varela)
Massimo @ Chrome, Apollo Köln Germany 31-12-2000
Miss Djax @ I Love Techno 2000 Gent 11-11-2000 (=Acid Maria @ Convex Club P2)
Miss Djax @ Matrix Berlin (=Monika Kruse @ Stammheim)
Miss Djax @ Quest 17-08-2002 (=Liberty One 2001 set)
Monika Kruse @ Bahnhof Leipzig (date unknown, logics..)
Monika Kruse @ Butan Club Wuppertal 14-03-2003 (=Pasqualle Maassen)
Monika Kruse @ Teqnology 2004 (wasn't broadcasted because she never gave permission for it)
Nature One Winterworld 2003, ALL sets
Neil Landstrumm @ Regis Labelparty London (=Landstrumm & Regis @ Tresor 16-09-2001 P1)
Oscar Mulero @ FamilyClub 02-08-2003 (member was there,and heared different..)
Oscar Mulero & James Ruskin @ Festival Big Bang Itzela 15-02-2003 P1+2 (=2 Itzela resident Djz)
Pounding Grooves - Live @ London (=DJ Mix Series 04 PGV -Fine Audio CD)
Regis @ Club Zazou, Liège 25-10-2003 (=not Regis most know,but a belgian House Dj)
Richie Hawtin @ Rohstofflager 14-03-2003
Richie Hawtin @ Groove Parade 17-07-2003 P1+2 (key tracks not in set-but heared by member LiVE)
Rino Cerrone @ TBC Austin Texas USA 28-08-2004 ( ask mr. anto$nello )
Rino Cerrone & Danilo Vigorito @ Naples 4decks 04-03-2004 (= @ Naples Plays Bass,Old River Park 11-07-2003)
Rush @ I Love Techno 2002 Gent 09-11-2002 (=ILT 2001 set)
Rush @ Budocentre Vienna 20-08-2003
Rush @ La Real Oviedo (=Rush @ Hafentunnel 2000 P1)
Rush @ Medusa Club Chicago (=Dave Clarke @ Fuse 1997)
Rush @ Convex Club Prague 23-12-2000 (=Adam Beyer @ Convex 23-12-2000)
Rush @ Nature One 2002 (=Rush @ Fuse Brussels 30-03-2002)
Rush @ Shockers 2003, any file/set (ID-T broadcast ended before he even started!)
Slam @ Sputnik Intensivstation 2002 (=Slam @ I Love Techno 2001)
Sound Sessions Miami 11-05-2002, ALL sets! (also often called Ministry of Sound)
Speedy J Live @ Quest 17-08-2002 (=Liberty One 2001 set)
Steve Rachmad @ Awakenings NDSM 11-10-2003 P2 (=Christian Wunsch Live PA same party)
Steve Rachmad @ Clublab radioshow Bratislava 11-2004 (=his CD "In The Mix")
Surgeon @ Fuse (2001?) (= Steve Stoll @ Fuse ?date?)
Surgeon @ U60311 Frankfurt 15-09-2000 (=Surgeon @ Expo 2001 >Flanders(?))
Sven Väth @ Cocoon Club EU Tour, Fortezza Da Basso, Italy 01-06-2004 p1 (=Coccoricco 21-02-2004)
Sven Väth @ Cocoon Closing Playa Sestanyol Ibiza 18-09-03 P1-4 (=Omen Closing Frankfurt 18-10-98)
Sven Väth @ U60311 24H Space Silvester 2000 (=Last Tresor Park CD mixed by Väth July 2000)
Sven Wittekind @ Uni FFM (= terrible homemix by someone..)
Technasia @ Quest 17-08-2002 (=Technasia @ Palazzo 10-12-2001)
The Advent @ Recreations Alemania [08-2003] prt1+2 (=his CD Recreations!!)
The Advent @ Rohstofflager Suisse 07.09.2006 (=Mikky B. @ Trax-4yrs Partysan,Rohstofflager 07-08-99)
The Advent @ Time Trap Technik Alemania (= again the CD!! Time Trap Technik..)


* Thx Steve107/Cha-Os & others, and.. YOU offcourse! *
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Everyone is more than welcome to reply with fakes not listed here! but we prefer as little as possible offcourse...

You can look @ bottom of this post for the last time i updated

THX in advance!!

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very good idea! i also have some fake ones but can't remember them now... will let you know

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thx 079underground for the great info thx
i have this set

Surgeon @ U60311 Frankfurt 15-09-2000 (= Surgeon @ Expo 2001 >Flanders?shit shit shit fakers
and this set have i frome winmx
Sven Vath - Live @ Cocoon Closing Playa Sestanyol Ibiza 18-09-2003 part1-4
is a fake

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OK I will! Thx dude!

> You guyz don't mind if i take some of that in my list i guess?!
after all it's a common (f#ck^ng) problem!!

[edit] hehe.. i have a feeling Steve had a look at your list when i see it, +75% exactly the same! But that don't mind offcourse..
By the way, the Rush @ E-Lake i got ain't a "Nature One'02" for sure... just check my list it's the Fuse 30-03-02 set (also 3hr-rip going with last 55mins T-Quest from that night)

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Some more..
Well, while i ripped some D-Valley 2003 sets last week, i noticed there is quite some bullshit/messed files going around the p2p's!!
heheh... at least these 3 sets>
Secret Cinema Live PA says playtime 55/56mins. at most files you see (80%or more!) but.. that's the original uncut (rip)file/part... have da same, but first 11mins is Monika Kruse ending her set! Followed by LivePA of Jeroen/S.C. what's 44.43m. exactly (can variey some secs,but max..)
> you wonder if anybody listens to his sets then right?!... And certainly the ones who put bullshit like that on web!
That's a bit a problem since 3voor12 got 'known' and suddenly a lot went hobbying en shit..

__Also lot of May and Saunderson parts, ( NOT the May/Saunderson together set 170MB! )
>A lot of the Derrick May sets u see (66/67mins about) are a same story, even worse; it´s 53mins Saunderson who's playing first, followed by Michel de Hey last 13mins of the file/set... And this can pass for a May-set people!? ..with quite some dumbo´s yeah that is..pfff..

But ok, not wasting any more typing on this! hehe..


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I have a Richie Hawtin from Awakenings and there has been a topic on this one before I think. But can anybody confirm it?

Richie Hawtin - Live @ Awakenings misschien 11-04-1998.mp3 (renamed it myself)

it's 138,6 MB at 256 kbps..... And on 47:56 mins you can hear Rocco scream: Richie Hawtin, if that's Rocco of course


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Sure it's a very good idea for this topic. Thx everybody for those info .

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I have a lot of these... Anyone knows the real name of "Ben Sims - Richie Hawtin - Electrotramp"??? I think that it's a fake too.

Thanks for the info guys...

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quote:

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Originally posted by Spiralnebel
you can also take a look of the fakeset list
of the United Schranz Board too..

:::CLICK HERE!:::

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Looking at thw page that you mentionned, at the end appears this message:

"Richie Hawtin @ Control 2, City Club Detroit (26.05.02) >>> Fake oder nicht ?"

I have this set (in two parts). Does someone know if it's a fake???

Thanks

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quote:

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Originally posted by D-LOW
Isn't that just a wrong date? Because there was an Awakenings @ 31-12-2003..

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Yes i know dude.. i have edited that line a little to "welcome" anybody that says/knows about it, or even better has the set! Because i've seen it once (on slsk) but didn't go for it, because looking at the total list of that user i saw some other fakes + a lot of incompletes he shared as ''complete'' (so, changed filenames / the ~INCOMPLETE part in front deleted u know? Another thing that really suckz, and it's done by quite lots of losers!!) Also the size/playtime looked the same as his set from Awakenings @ Westergas 12-09-2000 (58min? or so..)

2 Botje: Yep, the Hawtin/Amsterdam set(s) are a confusing story! 95% you see don't have more info as that + there are 2 or 3 different versions, all in same high bitrate/kbps (224/256 or so?) and also around same sizes... Say around 130/140MB if i'm correct..
And then there's the filenames: Hawtin @ Awake , Hawtin @ Chemistry/Escape/Amsterdam in various combi's or 1 of those 3, and also some have 2parts Escape/Chemistry....
I got anyway 2 parts/sets that are not the same, and just left the filenames like they are untill a day there will be someone that comes up with a convincing enough story/theory or so..

2 NeVeR: As far as i know, they aren't fakes, and believe there's 3 quite big parts/sets from Control II.. And with some more Dj's, can't remember at this moment who they where exactly.. believe 2 have seen names of Villalobos & Magda with it.
And there's a Carl Cox but i think that was from another date

Greetz all

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Okay dudes, i have added your fakers in my list, and will keep on doing it like that!

(Same drill as done with the meeting-threads, right!)

And to all others who know one or other fakerz: PLZ reply, there must be a LOT more!! And brought to the open for all 2 know!

Thx!

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2 NeVeR: As far as i know, they aren't fakes, and believe there's 3 quite big parts/sets from Control II.. And with some more Dj's, can't remember at this moment who they where exactly.. believe 2 have seen names of Villalobos & Magda with it.
And there's a Carl Cox but i think that was from another date

Greetz all [/B][/QUOTE]


Many thanks... I was wishing an answer in that way I love Richie Hawtin's sets

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