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#1 User is offline   Voodoopriester 

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Posted 11 April 2004 - 05:14 PM

Hi dudes :color:/>

I would like to start a thread for Reason users, where we can share tips and other things.
I'm using the program a lot, but I think, that there are many more hidden, or unknown tricks for best results.
My first question is: How to use the compressor as a hard- limiter. I want to insert the compressor between the mixer and the output- interface, to reduce signals over 0 dB.
I have tried a lot, but still without effect.
Is there anybody, who knows, how to do it?

On demand i`ll put some important links posted in this topic regarding to reason here: If you have more useful links please add em to this topic so i can add em later in this post...

http://www.peff.com/

http://www.members.o...treasonfaq.html

http://www.reasonfreaks.com

http://www.dbxpro.com/manuals.htm

http://www.music-and....com/howto.html

http://links.prosoundweb.com
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#2 User is offline   oddmyth 

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Posted 12 April 2004 - 03:37 PM

Your question is easy to answer, its much like inserting a device between a specific channel on the Redrum and the mixing board.

Simply insert a compressor and move it close to the mixer. Hit the TAB key to flip to the back panels. Take the master out of the mixing board and tie it to the LR in of the compressor. Tie the LR out of the compressor to the audio output interface.

Unfortunately this method gives you no control over the wet/dry signal ratio. Your best bet would be to create yet another mixing board and tie the input from your other mixing board to a channel on the new mixing board, then insert the compressor as on an FX channel, then you can modify the wet/dry signal ratio by adjusting the FX level.

I would use a method similar to this to master my drum tracks better, as well as isolating frequency bands.

But if you are just running your output really hot (at 0dB), then you should really be turning things down and pumping up the volume outside of Reason. Running the output hot on Reason can produce some really crappy sounding music.

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Posted 12 April 2004 - 03:58 PM

ups, you misunderstood me :-)
How to use the cables I know. I need the values of the "ratio-, treshold-,etc. - knobs.
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Posted 12 April 2004 - 06:27 PM

oh shit that's easy.... just set the ratio at anything from 1:8 or above... and then turn the treshold to the point when you're starting to do some heavy duty compression... to prevent "pumping" you'll need a fast attack and medium slow realease.. meaning set the attack at about 9 o clock and the release at about 12-3 o clock...


and as for what todd said about wet/ dry signals... you don't need to separate the wet/ dry signals with this kind of processing... a compressor is a series processor, meant to affect the entire signal... you don't want to have wet/ dry controll over it.... it's meant to controll dynamic range of a signal, it doesn't really alter the tonal quality very much.. it just controlls amplitude...

it's much more involved than i'v stated here, but i'm too lazy to go into a huge explanation right now...
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Posted 12 April 2004 - 07:15 PM

^^^ indeed listen to this man, he knows of what he speaks !!

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Posted 15 April 2004 - 12:00 PM

My standard rack is configured that way.. well...

Or well something like this: Output Interface - Comp - Filter - EQ - Main mixer - 2 Mixers (One With Regate effect, check Kurt Kurasaki's a.k.a. Peff site for this nice effect) and the other mixer where I do the normal stuff. When adding more synths or whatever than the "other mixer" can handle (cuz of the available channels) I connect a new mixer to my Main mixer. :)/> Pretty complicated but quite simple... ummmm :D/>

btw xtra edit: sometimes I don't use the main comp, eq or filter... or even the regate for that matter... but it's nice to have them ready for use if needed.

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Posted 15 April 2004 - 02:49 PM

that guy peff is some sort of the propelerheads poducts rebirth/reason freak
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 02:51 PM

yup... but he sure knows his stuff... check it out at www.peff.com if yall havent yet
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 03:16 PM

thanx for the tips. I'll check it out....
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 04:11 PM

I`ll make this thread sticky cos these tips can come in handy. I allready knew about the compressionthings, I just twist the knobs on the compressor and when it feels fine i`ll leave it in the preferable settings ...
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by jazzmin
yup... but he sure knows his stuff... check it out at www.peff.com if yall havent yet

good useful web-site ;)/>
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Posted 16 April 2004 - 11:13 AM

You bet ;)/>
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Posted 19 April 2004 - 06:26 AM

here's a tip for people who slave reason to abelton live via rewire... don't use the reason mixer.. just plug all of the virtual machines into the rewire channels and then you get everything showing up in ableton live on seperate channels.. very nice..

i love the way these two progams work together.. so f***ing powerful
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Posted 19 April 2004 - 03:00 PM

alright i've got some requests:

1st. - how to simulate a record slowing down, or tempo change in a allowed amount of time. (say i want the tempo to change from 140 to 125 within 4 bars ) i've heard there is a way to do this inside of reason but i may be wrong

and 2nd. - how to get those intense treble filters. not filtering it into the bass and 'hiding' it so to say, but raising everything to the treble side of the spectrum. i'll try and get a audio clip when i get to a better computer.

so i've just read about how to do my second question in 2.5 with a vocador or something, but how about 2.0?
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Posted 20 April 2004 - 03:20 PM

Indecline: I don't think it's possible. I’ve tried to do it myself in reason, but it’s fucked up. The best thing I thought of (if you want to use only reason) is to export the piece of sound you want to slow down. This could be a large file or whatever you want. Ummm… import it into your NN-19 and use the pitchwheel. I haven’t figutred out how to do it in any other way.

If you want to change the tempo without the pitch being altered you should consider using Acid Pro. I use Reason and Cubase till I’m (partially) done with (most of) my track. I export each track as an audiofile to Acid so I can change some last stuff b4 my track is done. Sometimes my track is as good as done before exporting the whole shit to acid, but I’m kinda used to doing this and even then I always find/think off things I can adjust/change/add in Acid. Pretty usefull application and easy to use.

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